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Tuesday, June 10, 2008

06/10/08 Republican's Manuver To Minipulate The Vote On The $30,000 Havemeyer Study


Peter Crumbine's Family And The Republican Powers That Be Don't Care What The Taxpayers Want. They Will Just Manipulate The Way The Vote Is Conducted In The Representative Town Meeting.

The Single Family Home-Owners Of Greenwich And Their RTM Represenitives Don't Want To Lease The Havemeyer Building To The Arts Center For $1 A Year


The powers that be in Greenwich knew that a request for $30,000 to study on whether the Havemeyer Building would be suitable for a new senior center was encountering pockets of strong resistance in the Representative Town Meeting so they made a backroom deal to combine or tie the vote with three other items.

Christine Edwards (RTM District 8) from district repeatedly tried to get Moderator Thomas J. Byrne to recognize her objection, but Mr. Byrne was busy entertaining a wham bam thank you madam motion and a second to combine the $30,000 study with out discussion.

Ms. Edwards protested not being called upon and Mr. Byrne 'apologized" for not seeing that Ms. Edwards desire to speak.

Christine Edwards was eventually allowed to speak when she requested to make a motion to remove the the the $30,000 study from the combined vote.


Ms Edwards and others argued that the Greenwich town was putting the cart before the horse.

Ms. Edwards said it would be premature to fund the study until its current tenants, Greenwich Public School administrators, decide whether they want to remain there or seek office space.

Ms. Edwards also said the Commission on Aging spent about $75,000 surveying residents on the type of programs they want for the town's senior population. How can the someone do a $30,000 survey on if the havemeyer building meets the senior citizens needs, until the $75,000 plus survey senior citizens needs study is completed?

Many RTM members supported Ms. Edwards efforts, because they feel that the study requested by the Commission on Aging is really a Peter Crumbine "stalking horse" for the arts center project that his family wants so bad.

Some RTM members in the audiance joked that they would rather tear down the building and give the land to Walmart instead of giving it to Crunbine" s Art Center.

Ms. Edwards said the Greenwich Board Of Education is still has not payed for a study on an incomplete study on what they should do with the building. Currently, the town has $78,400 budgeted for school administrators to determine their space needs and look at alternative locations for their offices

Ms. Edwards also said the Greenwich Board Of Education decide to stay put and might even complete the famous Havemeyer Stairway to nowhere and add an additional floor on to the building.

Many RTM members in the audience said they would rather rent the thing out to a hedge fund for big bucks instead of giving the building away for $1 a year.


Ms. Edwards motion to have the Hevemeyer building voted on separately received a second and Ms. Edwards requested a formal vote and Moderator Thomas Byrne refused a took a voice vote.

When there was no clear winner Moderator Thomas J. Byrne then took a formal vote with the results being 90 for voting on Havemeyer separately and 98 to vote for Havemeyer and three other items alltogether.

So the Republican Insiders and the Crumbine family won and a third vote on all four items was taken the result was 151 in favor and 31 not in favor with 4 abstentions.

Some RTM members later said they became confused with the multiple votes and accidentally voted the wrong way. 90 RTM members had voted yes to remove the $30,000 Havemeyer study from the combined vote now had to vote not to allocate the $30,000.

Other RTM members said if I voted against the $30,000 Havemeyer study, then I was also voting against the Board of Education being authorized to accept the donation of a Veteran’s Memorial at Hamilton Ave. School from the Chickahominy Reunion Association.

Ohters did not want to vote for the $30,000 Havemeyer study, because they would have also been voting against a sum of $300,000 being appropriated to the Law Department.


After reading this story please read the Greenwich Time story and then watch the RTM meeting on cable tv. Then ask yourself if the Greenwich Time got the story right or did the ever so compliant Greenwich Time report the story in a manner that wont upset the political powers that be in Greenwich.

These Republican insiders are nuts they argue that the town must decide what to do with building, which the nonprofit Greenwich Center for the Arts wants to lease for $1 a year.

Of coarse, Crumbine and his supporters are telling the truth when they say under growing pressure from donors to get the town to commit to the plan to give away the Havemeyer building for $1 a year.

This is another chance for the single family home-owners to get ripped off one again by political insiders and their families.

Please see The Greenwich Time story:


RTM OKs study of Havemeyer


By Neil Vigdor
Greenwich Time Staff Writer

In a key vote for the future of the Havemeyer Building, the Representative Town Meeting overwhelmingly approved $30,000 last night to determine if the downtown landmark might be suitable for a new senior center.

Commission on Aging Director Sam Deibler was all smiles as the legislative body voted 151 to 31 with four abstentions for an architectural study, which he said will start immediately and take about 45 days to complete. The work will be done by Perkins Eastman, the same architectural firm that developed the specifications for a new senior center for the town. The firm has offices in Stamford.

The study should put to rest once and for all the question of whether the current Senior Center could relocate from its home in the Old Town Hall across the street to the Havemeyer Building, Deibler said.

"The architects are the only ones who can tell us whether the specifications work in the building," Deibler said in an interview after the RTM's vote at Central Middle School.

One group that will be anxiously awaiting the study's results is the Greenwich Center for the Arts, a nonprofit organization that has offered to pay for the Havemeyer Building's transformation into a downtown arts center in return for a $1-per-year lease from the town......

Now Please Read The Rest Of The Incomplete Greenwich Time Story

This Is A Textbook Case Of Bad Reporting
At The Greenwich Time


Did Commission on Aging Director Sam Deibler call the story into the Greenwich Time, because he is like the only one quoted in this incomplete story.

There is no mention in the Greenwich Time article of this vote being combined with three other items on the RTM call.

There is no mention of the drama of one two voice votes and two formal votes as both sides manoeuvred on the issue.

Do you see one quote from a frustrated RTM member who was to approve the $30,000 for the Havemeyer study or vote against a donation of a veterans memorial.

Did you read one reference in the Greenwich Time about how Selectman Peter Crumbine and his family who are working in the background to get the $1 a year sweetheart deal?

Why is Neil Vigdor afraid to tell the Greenwich Time readers what really happened on with the RTM vote on the $30,000 Havemeyer study?

You just can't trust Neil Vigdor to take a news story to where ever it might lead.

Mr. Vigdor is sitting on all of the originals from the Old Greenwich Beach Pass Counterfiet ring. The Greenwich Police Department only has photocopies of passes in the binder?

Yet, dose Vigdor or the Greenwich Time have the Journalistic Balls to publish color copies of the forged beach passes, parking permits and marina permits?

Many Greenwich Time readers are saying that once Vigdor found out who was involved in the counterfeit ring he and the Greenwich Time backed off big time.


No Wonder Bill Clark Of Greenwich Gossip refers to the Greenwich Time, as the "Yellowich Time" and says,"There was a rumor circulating for many years that the paper was published in the basement of Town Hall, so that all the bent or incompetent politicians could censor everything before it was printed."


Please read:


05/06/08 - Did You Know That Greenwich Gossip Webmaster Bill Clark Had Been Banned By The "Yellowich Time"


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