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Monday, May 19, 2008

05/19/08 - Even More Comments About Greenwich High School Taser Incident (updated #3)


Was The Police Use Of The Taser In
Greenwich High School Justified?



DiSgUiStEd says:

Okay. So what did Londono do? Was it just water balloons or was he being suspended for some injustice, some unsafe criminal activity? Tasers at GHS, oh, my God!!!!!!!!!! Do I send my kids, really, get a grip Dr. Sternberg, the Board and all you Greenwich Parents. Do you want this to happen to your son or daughter? Google a Taser, its a fricken gun that electrocutes you, hello?

As a lifetime Greenwich Citizen raising two small children in this fabulous town alway in the news do I as a taxpayer really want to deal with this crap!

NO, NO, NO MAYBE YOU ALL WANT TO PAY FOR MY CHILDREN TO GO TO PRIVATE SCHOOL TOO!

Why couldn't the parents just come to the student center and get there son?

They were there anyway, did any bumble head "cynical" cop think to do the right thing before having to "WIN" Win What?

It crazy that by throwing water balloons and then the punishment is being TASERED!!!!!!!!!! Not once, but three wonderful, exceptional ever memorable times

eagle says:

You just don't get it.

He was asked to go with security and refused. Sounds like a spoiled brat to me. Bet he'll listen next time (and most likely will be a next time). His parents will probally sue the school, security, and police

CT Cop says:

First, the OFFENDER was drive-stunned, not shot with the darts and wires.(Hint: Read the article.) Accordingly, the OFFENDER was not immobilized by the taser.

Second, a weight of "only" 140 pounds does not magically render the OFFENDER harmless.(True fact: At the height of his career in 1972, Bruce Lee - a thoroughly dangerous person - weighed 146 pounds.)

Third, a REALLY GOOD way for the police to improve their relationship with any group is to do their job and arrest violators. One would think that the law-abiding 98% of the student body would be grateful that the disruptive and dangerous other 2% are being dealt with like the maniacal, chair-throwing criminals they are.

Fourth, the very reason Greenwich High School (like all of Greenwich) is "one of the safest" places is BECAUSE the police aggressively enforce laws and maintain order. Maybe you would prefer they be more lax. Maybe you would rather have your child in a less "authoritarian" environment like any one of Bridgeport's public high schools. Are you actually suggesting that would be a better alternative?

Fifth, the OFFENDER's demonstrated violence and beligerent attitude are the reasons he was subdued by the police - not because he had thrown a water balloon.(Again ... Hint: Read the article.)

Stop being an enabler. Strict adherence to moral principles and a tradition of holding people accountable for their conduct are the very reasons Connecticut became known as the "Land of Steady Habits." (Hint: Stop being oxymoronic with your references.)

Violent criminal behavior by a student and the public high school environment are the two things that didn't blend properly.

GHS says:

This is a case of excessive force pure and simple. Give the authorities a little juice and they can't help themselves. Be men and when it's 3-on-1, declare victory and escort the brat out without resorting to such tactics. Go home and stun your dog a few times instead if you want your kicks.

Cops and tasers in GHS just don't mix.

stamford resident says:

The punishment over exceeds the (crime).First of all we don`t know if this kid was always in trouble or if this was just a prank that seniors do all over this country. I`ve been to graduation exercizes, and kids through beach balls around and stuff like that. It`s a way of saying "I made it". No one gets hurt , it`s no big thing.

Put a uniform and a badge on someone , and now a gun or a taser and stand back folks , you are now witnessing a control freak at work.I wonder what these school gaurds and police officers would do if they were facing a real dangerous criminal,especially Greenwich.

Stamford Talk says:

Yeah giving a Taser to people in charge of school kids might NOT be the best plan.

indefensible says:

The "violent criminal behavior" that the student is supposed to have perpetrated consisted of throwing a water balloon, then throwing a chair. And for that he is shot with a taser?! And for that he is suspended a week? Is that what you consider "violent criminal behavior"?

These are young people. These are adolescents. This kid did not rob a bank, did not rape anyone, did not stab or shoot anyone. He threw a water balloon, for which his school over-reacted by suspending him for a week, which precipitated an angry response that precipitated an cruel over-reaction by the police officer stationed at the school.

When you put armed police officers into that environment, they will act as they've been trained, and students will begin to look like nails for police hammers. That high school was one of the safest schools in the state and the nation before police officers were stationed there. Putting police is just asking for this sort of rough, completely unnecessary treatment of young people.

It's time to get the cops out of our schools and back on the streets.

Anonymous says:

This kid threw a water balloon and is treated like a dangerous criminal.

The police administered three electric shocks directly to his neck.

Is that the only way you can think to deal with a kid who's upset?

Wrestling him to the ground, administering painful electric shocks?

How 'bout just letting him go home.

He wasn't a criminal, and he didn't break the law.

But the police officer at GHS, who is trained to deal with "criminals", treated him like a criminal, and the criminal justice system is treating him like a dangerous criminal by holding levying $50,000 bail.

Tell us with what sort of offence is a $50k bail usually attached?

Give us a few examples of the sort of criminal who is held on $50k?

Do they include kids who throw a water balloon as part of a senior prank on senior prank day? I didn't think so.

The young people in this town have been angry about rough treatment from the police for a long time. The police acknowledged it, and their reaction was to assign an school resource officer (SRO) to the school.

Making scores of arrests at the school and administering electric shocks to a kid's neck is not the way to win friends and influence people.

MR. SRO officer, if you think that the police in this town will be better regarded because they nailed this kid, your superiors should have a serious talk with you.

mother of freshmen says:

This is overkill, pure and simple.

As the mother of 2 incoming freshmen, I am appalled at what happened last week. From what I know, no one was in danger. My nephew was in the student center and witnessed the whole thing. He says the police were not justified in tasering this student, who was being stupid and stubborn but not a menace.

Suspension over a water balloon is ridiculous. Tasering because a kid won't go to the principal's office is completely UNACCEPTABLE.

And now the district will be sued and up go our taxes!

Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!



Please see previous posts:

More Comments About Greenwich Student Getting Tased Three Times In The Greenwich Cafeteria (Update #6)


Reader Submited Comments About Weapon Being Fired At Greenwich High School - What Was the Crime? (Enhanced With Video) Updated

AND:

3 Greenwich Cops Give 140 Pound Boy 50,000 Volts And A $50,000 Bail For not Going To A School Office Over Water Ballon Incident: (Updated)

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Many people think the Idea of the Taser as a magic bullet conflict-ender may have convinced
police forces to overlook the possibility the devices are not as safe.(I use a lot of strong words but I don't use "brainwashed" but others have)

A San Francisco Cardiologist Zian Tseng recently stated Studies on tasers are flawed. Dr. Tseng pointed out, Most commonly cited studies that show the devices are safe were financed by Taser International.

The Taser dilemma is also indicative of the continuing transformation of US police forces into a more Paramilitary mindset.

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