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Tuesday, November 25, 2008

11/25/08 READER SUBMITTED COMMENTS: No plea?


This DUI Killer Case Clearly Shows That There Needs To Be More Transparency At The Greenwich Police Department.
Accident Reports Are Public Records !!!!!!!
Arrest Warrants Are Public Records Unless They Are Sealed By A Judge.


The Initial Police Investigation Reports And The Names Of DUI Killers Are Made Available In Darien, Norwalk Stamford And Westport, But Not In Greenwich.


If This Accident Had Happened On Exit 4 Of I-95 The Connecticut State Police Would Have Released The Name Of The DUI Killer And Would Have Arrested Him On The Spot.


However, The Secretive Greenwich Police Department

Constantly Plays Favorites In Town.


To the Greenwich Roundup Editor,


I find the charges against Mr. Moore a little off. 2nd degree manslaughter is not 1st degree murder. I think if people DRINK, get behind the wheel of a car resulting in a death, it is MURDER. I would also consider it to be premeditated murder.

I have a serious problem with how ALL LOCAL police departments handle drunk driving. If you look at the police blotters in the weekly newspapers, the majority of arrests made are of non-residents.

I have gone through police check points in Westchester and Long Island where the local police ask a couple of questions UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL, to see if they detect the smell of alcohol. In 30 years, I have never gone through a check point in the state of CT, with the exception of one seatbelt check at 10AM on a Sunday.

Where are these "CRACKDOWNS"????????

Why is the arrest warrent of Joey's killer not released? Why was the whole story such a mystery from the beginning? Why did it take so long to arrest Moore? And no plea? What's up with that?

I feel sorry for the family of Joey, especially as we enter into the holiday season. My prayers are with them.

I hope his killer rots in a jail cell for many many years.

P.C.
Greenwich


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There was no plea and the case was continued until January 7th, because Deputy Assistant State's Attorney David Applegate told the judge the state needed more time to get evidence from the secretive Greenwich Police Department and over to Douglas Moore's Greenwich defense attorney, James Pastore.


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"We have to straighten out some discovery issues," Deputy Assistant State's Attorney David Applegate told the judge.


Attorney James Pastore is still waiting for the Greenwich Police Department to turn over autopsy report, photographs of the scene, speed calculations, and a damn good reason why they would let Moore who was higher than a kite leave Joseph Borselio's death scene without being arrestted.

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11/25/08 When Greenwich Roundup Speaks Heart Newspaper's Greenwich Time Web Master Listens.


When Greenwich Roud Up Says,"Jump!"


The Greenwich Time Web Master Asks,"How High?"


YesterdayEvening , We Had To Once Again Take The Greenwich Time Web Master Behind The Greenwich Time Woodshed And Give Him A Few Wacks For Not Posting Greenwich News Links Untill Late Morning.


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As Greenwich Roundup Pointed Out That All Of The Greenwich Time Newspaper Stories Were Digital Available The Night Before And Online Greenwich Time News Readers Should Not Have To Wait Until Late Morning To Read The News.


Yesterday The Greenwich Time Web Master Did Such A Bad Job, He Never Even Got The Greenwich Time Editorial Or Letters To The Editor Posted At All.


However, The Greenwich Time Web Master Got The Message And Has Posted The Local News Online Well Before Most Greenwich Residents Have Gotten Out Of Bed.


Greenwich Avenue lights make holidays brighter
Ciarin Carruthers looked down Greenwich Avenue Monday night and smiled at the twinkling white lights, the culmination of a month's work.


When Indra Nooyi was promoted in 2001 to president of PepsiCo., the world's fourth largest food and beverage company, the Greenwich mother immediately raced home to deliver the good news to her family.


Food Bank in urgent need of turkeys
With only two days until the Thanksgiving holiday, the Food Bank of Lower Fairfield County still needs more than 1,800 turkeys.

Parks and Rec breakfast with Santa The Department of Parks and Recreation's "Breakfast with Santa," which replaces "Lunch with Santa" that was held annually for 19 years, will be held from 10 a.m. to noon Nov. 29 at the Eastern Greenwich Civic Center, 90 Harding Road, Old Greenwich.

Mrs. Claus and her friends Frosty, Rudolph and Santa's elves will be on hand to greet children and hand out goodie bags. There will also be a mechanical reindeer and polar bear for the children to ride.

Breakfast will start promptly at 10 a.m. John Fogarty of Kiddlerock Productions will start the entertainment at 10:30 a.m. Santa will arrive after the show to meet with the children and listen to their Christmas wishes.

Tickets may be purchased through the mail or at the Park and Recreation office on the second floor of Town Hall, 101 Field Point Road. No tickets will be sold at the door.
For more information, call 622-7814 or visit http://www.greenwichct.org/.
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Professor discusses
terrorism's challenges

Fawaz Gerges, an author and professor at Sarah Lawrence College, Bronxville, N.Y., will discuss "The Challenges Facing the New President in the Middle East and the War on Terrorism" at 7:30 p.m. Dec. 2 at the Cole Auditorium in the Greenwich Library, 101 W. Putnam Ave.

The talk, which is free, is co-sponsored by the Greenwich Forum on War and Peace and the Sarah Lawrence College of Alumnae/i Relations. Refreshments will served before the talk.
For more information, call Jane Milliken at 637-7723.
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Vermont, musicians to perform
at Cole Auditorium

The Musicians from Marlboro, the touring extension of the Marlboro Music Festival in Vermont, will return to Greenwich Library's Cole Auditorium at 4 p.m. Dec. 14 as part of the Friends of Greenwich Library's Cole Concert Series.

Eight musicians will play works by Janacek, Mozart and Mendelssohn.

The performance is free and open to the public. Doors open at 3:30 p.m.; show begins at 4 p.m.
The Musicians from Marlboro will return to Greenwich Library for two additional concerts Feb. 15 and May 3.

For more information, call the Friends office at 622-7938.
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Mammography screening
at YWCA

The YWCA of Greenwich, 259 E. Putnam Ave., will host a mobile mammography unit from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. Dec. 2.

It is a free screening by the Stamford Hospital Mobil Mammography Program. Appointments are necessary. Participants should bring their insurance card or a copy of the front and back, their doctor's name, address and phone number.

For more information or to book an appointment, call 276-5990

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Wildlife photographer
discusses work

Photographer and author Olaf Soot will show photos from and discuss his mountaineer's tour of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and Brooks Range in Alaska, the Rockies and Andes at 7:30 p.m. Dec. 3 in the Greenwich Library meeting room, 101 W. Putnam Ave.

Soot will sign copies of his book, "Alpine Americas," which will be available to purchase. The program is free and open to the public.

For more information, call Wayne Campbell at 622-7922.

Police blotter
Astrid Ortiz, 33, of 9 Armstrong Court, was arrested Saturday evening and charged with third-degree assault and disorderly conduct, police said.



We are normally fans of New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg's businesslike approach to running government.


Concerns about gay marriage sound like bias
To the editor: I am responding to Nov. 21 letter in Greenwich Time, "Out-of-staters' gay marriage comes with cost.


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Monday, November 24, 2008

11/24/08 BEHIND THE TIME: Greenwich Post Reports On DUI Killer Five Hours After Debra Friedman At The Greenwich Time

No plea in bicyclist’s death

Breaking news

Posted 4:27 p.m., Monday, Nov. 24, 2008

The case of a Riverside man accused of hitting and killing bicyclist Joseph Borselio in a drunk driving crash has been continued until Jan. 7.

Stamford Superior Court Judge Barbara Brazzel-Massaro continued the case during a short appearance on Monday morning so the State’s Attorney’s Office would have enough time to provide defense attorney James Pastore with information as part of the discovery process. Mr. Pastore is defending Riverside resident Joseph Moore, 24, who has been charged with second degree manslaughter with a motor vehicle, driving under the influence, evading responsibility in a fatal crash, unsafe movement and failure to exercise due care to avoid a pedestrian.

Police allege that Mr. Moore was intoxicated when he struck Mr. Borselio, 20, who was riding his bicycle on Sheephill Road near Sound Beach Avenue Extension about 11:45 p.m. on Oct. 5. Toxicology reports allegedly showed Mr. Moore’s blood alcohol content far above the legal limit and police say he attempted to leave the scene of the accident before driving off the road and crashing into a utility pole a short distance away. Police responding to the scene found Mr. Moore by his car near the pole. The car, a Jeep Grand Cherokee, reportedly had windshield damage and police say it was from when Mr. Borselio struck it after being hit.

Mr. Borselio was found deceased at the scene.....

.....When asked about his client’s state of mind with the charges looming, Mr. Pastore said he was experiencing a lot of emotions.

“He’s nervous and devastated and sad,” Mr. Pastore said. “It’s the normal emotions anyone would experience after a horrible accident where someone lost a life.”
Mr. Pastore would not comment on whether Mr. Moore obeyed a stop sign on Sheephill Road where the incident took place and when asked if his client had been intoxicated at the time he advised reporters to “read the warrant.” The arrest warrant in this case has not been made publicly available.

Police Sgt. Timothy Berry, who lead the investigation into the incident, told the Post last week that Mr. Moore had not made any statements to officers to give his version of the events on the advice of counsel. Mr. Pastore said Monday that it was his client’s right to not give a statement.

“Gotta love the constitution,” Mr. Pastore said......

.....Stamford based attorney Lindy Urso also appeared during the proceeding. He said he is now representing the Borselio family and gave the proper paperwork to Judge Brazzel-Massaro. Mr. Urso, who spoke to the Post on Monday, said the family “is considering all the options” when asked if they were considering a civil suit against Mr. Moore.

“They feel the prosecution here will be the beginning of the healing process,” Mr. Urso said. “Obviously nothing will bring Joe back, but a stiff punishment here will, hopefully, provide a real deterrent in the future so other families will not have to go through what they are going through.”

kborsuk@greenwich-post.com

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COMMENT:
WOW, Rookie Greenwich Time Reporter Debra Friedman Might Have Filed Her Story First, But She Failed To Report Most Of The Details Of The Story.
Right Now Rookie Greenwich Time Reporter Debra Friedman Is Probably Calling Up Veteran Greenwich Post Reporter Ken Borsuk And Saying,"Ken, Can You Give Me The Phone Number For That Urso Guy?"




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11/24/08 Greenwich Time News Links --- Top Story: DUI Killer That Greenwich Police Let Go Free Is Brought Before A Judge To Stand For Joey's Death


Douglas Moore at his arraignment in the fatal Sheephill Road motor vehicle accident that killed 20-year-old Joseph Borselio. He stands with his attorney James Pastore.
(Helen Neafsey/Greenwich Time photo)

Deputy Assistant State's Attorney David Applegate Fails To Provide DUI Killer With Evidence Against Him In A Timely Manner

Riverside man arraigned in fatal accident

By Debra Friedman
Staff Writer
Posted: 11/24/2008 11:56:58 AM EST

STAMFORD - The 24-year-old Riverside man charged with second-degree manslaughter with a motor vehicle and other offenses stemming from an Oct. 5 accident that killed 20-year-old Joseph Borselio was arraigned Monday morning in state Superior Court in Stamford.

Douglas Moore did not enter a plea on the charges, which also include operating under the influence, evading responsibility in a fatal crash, unsafe movement and failure to exercise due care to avoid a pedestrian.

The case was continued until Jan. 7......

.....Pastore said he is still waiting for the autopsy report, photographs of the scene and speed calculations.

Moore turned himself over to Greenwich Police on Nov. 17 after a warrant was issued for his arrest.

Police said Moore struck and killed Borselio, who was riding his bicycle north on Sheephill Road near the intersection with Sound Beach Avenue Extension just before midnight on Oct. 5.

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COMMENT:


Let's Wait And See How Good A Job That The Greenwich Police Department Did Collecting Evidence Against The DUI Killer That They Wrongly Let Go Free Seven Weeks Ago.


Greenwich police begin DUI holiday crackdown
With the holiday season just around the corner, local and state police will step up their efforts to curb drunken driving with undercover patrols, air surveillance and sobriety checkpoints.


"This is definitely a high priority as the holidays approach," said Lt. J. Paul Vance, state police spokesman. "Our message is clear - drinking and driving can only result in something bad. It can even be deadly."


Greenwich police will increase patrols and work with state police to set up sobriety checkpoints.....


....."People think of it as a traffic ticket, but it's a heck of a lot more," said Vance.


"We're talking handcuffs, custody battles, embarrassment, court appearances and the added expense that goes along with it."


Under state law, an adult is legally intoxicated if their blood-alcohol content measures .08 or higher. Drivers under age 21 are legally intoxicated if their blood-alcohol concentration is .02 or less.


A contributing factor to drunken driving during the holiday season, particularly Thanksgiving, is the return home of college freshmen, Vance said.....


....Last Thanksgiving, Vance said state police investigated 408 motor vehicle accidents, four of which involved fatalities. State police also arrested 67 people for drunken driving, Vance said.


While the issue is certainly intensified between Thanksgiving and New Year's, Vance said state police take it seriously throughout the year.


"This is a campaign we've undertaken. We partner with Mothers Against Drunk Driving and Student Against Destructive Decisions, as well as with municipal departments," said Vance.


According to state Department of Transportation statistics, there were 311 fatal motor vehicle accidents in 2006, 43 percent of which were alcohol related......


......State police said sobriety checkpoints are posted in places where they see a higher-than-normal number of accidents involving alcohol or drunken driving arrests. According to Vance, there are a number of areas in Fairfield County where these checkpoints will be. Greenwich police have not yet disclosed where sobriety checkpoints will be.


State police recommend sticking to nonalcoholic beverages for those planning on driving after attending holiday gatherings.......


COMMENT:


One Wonders How Many Other DUI Drivers, Like Douglas Moore, The Greenwich Police Department Will Let Go Free Durring This Thanksgiving Holiday "Crackdown."



CHICAGO - With the economy in crisis, President-elect Barack Obama pledged Monday to honor the commitments the outgoing Bush administration has made to rescue financial markets and urged the new, incoming Congress to pass a major stimulus package "right away" to restore growth and create jobs.

The prospect of the Greenwich public schools holding classes on Veterans Day and Columbus Day to prevent more classroom disruptions in October and November has annoyed some veterans and Italian-Americans.....

...."It's kind of putting Veterans Day in with holidays like Halloween," said Eric Roitsch, 43 a veteran of Afghanistan and Iraq. "Although I didn't get into the military to be honored, I think its important that children know about those who fought for our freedoms."

World War II Veteran John Macri said that having the children take the day off to attend the parades and hear from the veterans is much more meaningful than anything they would learn in school, from a text book or a teacher.

"It just makes a much bigger impact," he said.

Taking the holiday away in some ways diminishes the importance of honoring those who fought for this country, said John Gowans, a member of the Honor Guard.

"We wouldn't have any holidays without veterans. It just doesn't make sense," he said.
Recognizing Veterans Day is an American tradition that goes back nearly 90 years.

"I really wish they wouldn't do that," said Korean War veteran Tony Cossu. "It has always been a tradition and I would prefer to keep it at that."

Columbus Day commemorates the Italian Christopher Columbus, who has been credited by some to have discovered the Americas. Italian-Americans view this holiday as an opportunity to celebrate their heritage.

"I find it a bit disturbing that they would want to get rid of this holiday especially because of the great history it has behind it, " said Tony DeVita, a member of the St. Lawrence Society, an Italian-American Club in Cos Cob. ......

....."Considering all of the holidays that we do celebrate in this town, it is inconceivable to me why they would take away one as important as this. Italians helped build this country and this town should have a day to celebrate that," said Jim Caparelle, St. Lawrence Society Treasurer.......

Americans rush plans for Obama inauguration

Stamford congregation makes plans to attend historic ceremony

By Gillian Gaynairand
Brett Zongker
The Associated Press
Posted: 11/24/2008 09:34:32 AM EST

WASHINGTON - Pattie Brew, daughter of a North Carolina sharecropper, had let almost a century go by without casting a vote for president or joining the inaugural crowds only three miles (5 kilometers) from her home in the U.S. capital.

"I never had no interest in it because my vote don't matter anyway, so I never even took the time to fool with it," said the 97-year-old woman known as Mother Brew. "I knew white people had the right of way here, you know."......

Balloons are the rage in Stamford
STAMFORD - Spec tators' eyes widened and their shouts grew louder as the 75-foot Billy Blazes balloon approached a traffic light.

US gov't unveils bold plan to rescue Citigroup

By Jeannine Aversa
The Associated Press
Posted: 11/24/2008 07:06:39 AM EST

WASHINGTON - Rushing to rescue Citigroup, the U.S. government agreed to shoulder hundreds of billions of possible losses at the stricken bank and to plow a fresh $20 billion into the company.

Regulators hope the dramatic action will bolster badly shaken confidence in the once mighty banking giant as well as the nation's financial system, a goal that so far has been elusive despite a flurry of government interventions to battle the worst global crisis since the 1930s.....

Goals set in search for new Greenwich schools chief
The Board of Education has set a series of interim deadlines in its search for its next superintendent in hopes that a new schools chief will be ready by July 1.

The board's search committee has just over seven months to undertake a slew of tasks, from hiring a search firm and consulting the public on desired traits in a schools chief, to recruiting candidates, conducting interviews and making a final selection.

The search committee last Wednesday began soliciting bids online from independent consultants that specialize in identifying and recruiting superintendents. The board is asking candidates to submit proposals by Dec. 5 to allow members to interview and select a consultant by Dec. 12.

Once that's done, the board and the consultant will seek input from community members on what qualities they want in a superintendent, according to board member Steven Anderson, who chairs the search committee.....

COMMENT:
The School Board Just Needs To Find A Superintendent That Is Willing To Fire Failed School Administrators Like The Greenwich High School Headmaster Alan Capasso And Assistant Superintendent Susan Wallerstein.


Obama begins to set economic course

By Beth Fouhy
The Associated Press
Posted: 11/24/2008 08:03:52 AM EST

CHICAGO - Eager to calm economic anxieties, President-elect Barack Obama is rolling out an economic vision that will require congressional cooperation even before he settles into his new desk in the White House's Oval Office.

Obama will introduce his new economic leadership team Monday, a key step toward enacting a huge new economic recovery plan that aims to save or create 2.5 million jobs over the next two years.

The plan is likely to far exceed the $175 billion Obama proposed during the campaign. It would include an infusion of money for infrastructure projects, new environmental technologies and tax cuts for low- and middle-income taxpayers. It will not call for tax hikes for the wealthy......

Town closes beach roads to cars on Sunday mornings
Having witnessed a cyclist get hit by a car at Greenwich Point and countless more vehicles whizzing through the narrow street that loops around the beach, Old Greenwich resident Bernadette Mazzella looks forward to the Sundays when the town closes it off to vehicles.

GYFL crowns three champions
The North Mianus Bulldogs captured the Greenwich Youth Football League Bantams championship in convincing fashion Sunday, defeating the Putnam Generals 38-13.

'Tiffany's' marks 50th anniversary
What's a call girl to do? A half-century before Ashley Dupre became New York's -- if not America's -- prostitute of fascination, there was Holly Golightly, the protagonist in Truman Capote's "Breakfast at Tiffany's.

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The Greenwich Time Webmaster Has Once Again Failed To Get Today's Editorial And Letter To The Greenwich Time Editor Posted Online.

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11/24/08 READER SUBMITTED COMMENTS: X Employee #2

Greenwich Roundup,
I'm not the X Advocate worker who wrote in before. I think there are 3 of us. But I agree with them. Working for Joe Pisani was very hard. Joe is a nasty guy with some serious issues. He was one of a bunch of editors. He was the senior editor. The others were much more easy going and fun to be around. He was a punk in my opinion. If I saw him on the street today, I'd say it to his face. He fired me for no reason.
The lady writers who hang all over him-Joy, she worked hard and did more editing than Joe did. She was ok, needed to hear Joe tell her how great she was doing like the rest of them needed too. Susie Costegri was a big question mark. She was around EVEN before Joe hired her because she worked upstairs for a magazine. I don't know why she was hired because she can't write and to me, I don't think she even wanted to work. She just sort of hung around, creating a less professional work environment. I think she was Joe's assistant-coffee runner-little project organizer-little ass kisser. That's about all I'll say.

I think half the paper printed EVERY DAY without Joe even seeing it. So, he was never taking blame for a thing. He was hyper focused on stupid subjects only.

He is aSOB who thinks the world revolves around him. He has a temper too. But when I see the name Pisani- I just think little !#$%^& PUNK. One day he can kiss my ass.

Glad to be gone



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Sunday, November 23, 2008

11/23/08 READER SUBMITTED COMMENTS: Mr. Robben's itty bitty view




Editor Greenwich Roundup:


Maybe Ex Greenwich Time Photographer John Ferris Robben should stop playing amature pet photographer and start doing his job!!! In order to EDIT NEWS, he might want to try FINDING NEWS . Then he might want to SKIP NEWS which is already printed here, there, and everywhere bcause by the time he prints it, its OLD NEWS. Somehow, LAST WEEKS NEWS, doesn't have the draw that TODAY'S NEWS does.

Mr. Robben, the secret of a successful newspaper is the same as a successful web site. It is NEWSSSSSS.

NOT SOME NEWS half true, or MOSTLY NEWS FROM OTHER TOWNS. Ignore the old expression, "NO NEWS IS GOOD NEWS," bc it doesn't apply to the press.

And finally, why don't you form a Greenwich Photography Club.

Maybe take photos of EVERYTHING you and your incompetent staff fail to report on. Maybe capture some news in pictures for people who can't read, or who don't understand English, or for our Pre School aged Greenwich Children.

You getting any of this?

Maybe buy a decent camera too. And unglue your eye from the lens-you are missing the big picture, sir.

Bill D.
Riverside
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11/23/08 Greenwich Time News Links For Sunday



There's no one way to tell a good story. Just take it from Christ Church members Marijane Marks and Kay Langan.

Greenwich residents loaned their cr ches to Christ Church, 254 E. Putnam Ave., for the new exhibit, titled "Follow the Star," which drew an estimated 500 people Thursday through Saturday at the church's parish hall. Money from ticket sales will benefit the parish gift shop.
Ecumenical collectibles on display over the weekend hailed from five continents and dozens of countries, including Mexico, China, France, Germany, Italy and Israel, said Marks, co-manager of the gift shop who helped organized the three-day show.

"It really provides you with a study in cross-cultural anthropology," said Langan, a fellow parishioner and co-organizer. "You get to see how different cultures personalized the (nativity) scene and made it relevant to their own lives, in their own way."



Town merchants try to entice consumers to shop locally
Sonia Malloy has added baby clothes. Joe Flynn has offered free delivery for orders made before Dec. 1 and Elizabeth Hoffman has mailed her loyal customers a $50 gift card.

Facing a critical holiday shopping season, Greenwich merchants are doing everything they can think of to lure customers into their stores.

"Take everything you knew and throw it out the window in this economy," said Joe Flynn of Patsy Crucitti & Sons Inc. Florist and Greenhouses at 1381 E. Putnam Ave., which has suffered low everyday sales since last year.

Like it or loathe it, the holidays mean spending money. Local retailers rely on holiday sales for as much as 40 percent of their annual revenue, great in a good year and terrible in a bad one like 2008 is expected to be.

So Flynn is hoping to defy predictions through innovative sales practices and good-old-fashioned customer service, targeting niche markets such as houses of worship with a relatively inexpensive flyer campaign, offering discounts on new products and promising free delivery for early orders.

"I just thought I'd offer people some incentives," he said. "Ideas are cheap. You gotta put it in motion."

Sonia Malloy of Splurge, a new gift boutique closer to Greenwich Avenue at 19 E. Putnam Ave., has done the same.

"I'm very cognizant of price-point value," she said. Most of her holiday advertising reads, "Many gifts under $50."

Malloy has added baby gifts to her selection -always a happy purchase, she said - and.......

With the epilogue already starting to be written on the Bush presidency, Greenwich, the town with a storied Republican tradition and close familial ties to the current White House occupants, finds itself starting a new chapter of its own.

But will the town continue to be a player in national politics under a Barack Obama administration?

Are Greenwich's days as fundraising mecca numbered?

Despite losing its pipeline to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. through its Bush family connections and the waning GOP influence in the Northeast, several top local Republicans and Democrats agreed that Greenwich will continue to be heard.

"I think, first of all, money is the mother's milk of politics. I think Greenwich will always have influence," said Ned Lamont, a member of the Obama campaign's national finance committee from town who garnered national recognition two summers ago with his upset of Joe Lieberman in Connecticut's Democratic Senate primary.

Others acknowledged that the changing political landscape might not favor Greenwich, however, including L. Scott Frantz, a top GOP fundraiser from Riverside who produced one of the few bright moments for Republicans in this past election with his resounding victory over Stamford Democrat Mark Diamond in the state's 36th District Senate race.

"My guess is (the town's political influence) will be significantly less after the new president takes office, but I do see that as temporary," Frantz said. "Although the voters have spoken......

'On Stage Family Day' at Bruce Museum

The Bruce Museum presents "On Stage Family Day" from 1 p.m. to 4 p.m. today at the Bruce Museum, 1 Museum Drive.

Family activities take place all afternoon with a special musical performance at 3 p.m. by the Connecticut Opera Express, which will present "The Three Little Pigs." All activities are suitable for people of all abilities, ages 5 and up, and are free with museum admission.
Admission is $7 for adults, $6 for seniors and students and free for children under 5 and members.

For more information, call the museum at 869-0376 or visit www.brucemuseum.org.
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Thanksgiving feast at Boys & Girls Club

The Boys & Girls Club of Greenwich will host its annual Thanksgiving feast for children in the club's after-school program at 4:30 p.m. Tuesday in the Club Game Room, 4 Horseneck Lane.

These 300 children will dine on turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, vegetables, rolls and pies. Serving the children that day will be club board members and staff, local dignitaries and school principals.

For more information, contact Don Palmer at 869-3224, ext. 102, or dpalmer@bgcg.org.
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St. Catherine church offers interfaith service

The public is invited to the annual Interfaith Communal Thanksgiving Service at 7:30 p.m. Tuesday at St. Catherine of Siena Church, 4 Riverside Ave.

Attendees are asked to bring non-perishable food items that will be donated to Neighbor to Neighbor.

For more information, call Rabbi Mitchell M. Hurvitz at 542-7150 or e-mail rabbimitch@templesholom.com.
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SPLURGE hosts food drive through Nov. 30
SPLURGE Unique Gifts, Home DŽcor and Jewelry, 19A East Putnam Ave., is collecting canned and dry food donations through Nov. 30 to support Neighbor to Neighbor in Greenwich.

The following foods are requested: dried and canned beans, boxed milk, canned fruits and vegetables, cereal, 100 percent fruit juice, and peanut butter and jelly. Donors may pick up a shopping bag and list of requested items at SPLURGE, which will offer 10 percent off purchases made by a donor on the day of their donation.

Neighbor to Neighbor provides free food to families in Greenwich and receives no government assistance.

SPLURGE is open Monday through Saturday from 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. and Sunday from noon to 5 p.m.

For more information, call Sonia Sotire Malloy at 869-7600.
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Holiday morning swim
at Boys & Girls Club

The Boys & Girls Club of Greenwich, 4 Horseneck Lane, will hold a Thanksgiving-morning swim from 6 a.m. to 9 a.m. Thursday.

For more information, call Bob DeAngelo or Don Palmer at 869-3224.
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United Way legislative breakfast set for Dec. 9

The United Way of Greenwich Community Planning Council will host its annual Legislative Breakfast from 8 a.m. to 9:30 a.m. Dec. 9 in the first-floor Cone Room at Town Hall, 101 Field Point Road.

Sign-in is at 7:45 a.m.

For more information or to RSVP, call 869-2221 or e-mail csmit@unitedway-greenwich.com.

Schools may slash holidays
The Veterans Day and Columbus Day holidays could become mandatory school days for Greenwich public school students under a proposal being considered by the Board of Education.

School officials are asking the board to revise the school calendar so that classes are held on one or both of the national holidays starting in the 2010-11 school year in hopes of minimizing what they call routine disruptions to the learning process.

Those two months are "so filled with holidays, it is disruptive to teachers," said the district's director of human resources, Ellen Flanagan, adding that teachers often must contend with a three-day week followed by a four-day week.

The reasons: Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur, which the state requires school districts to reserve as holidays, often fall in October and November. Thanksgiving knocks another two days off the calendar in late November, already a shorter month at 30 days, Flanagan noted.

Schools are typically closed for Election Day in early November, when many of the campuses are used as polling places. In addition, district officials usually schedule two staff development days in those two months.

By eliminating the Columbus and Veterans day holidays, school officials would create a more front-loaded calendar that would provide more flexibility for scheduling make-up snow days in the summer, said Cathy Delehanty, president of the Greenwich Education Association.Connecticut school districts are required to make up those days .......
Move over, hybrid cars. Electric bicycles may soon gain momentum as the next big thing in eco-friendly travel.


Greenwich water polo teams enjoy success at Speedo Cup
The Greenwich middle school water polo teams found success at the 2008 Speedo Cup earlier this month at the University of Michigan


There's a small ray of economic sunshine peeking through the fiscal gloom that now shrouds Connecticut.

Amid a rapidly increasing number of housing foreclosures, rising unemployment and declining revenues on the state and local levels, Connecticut's export economy continues to grow.
In fact, new data from the World Institute for Strategic Economic Research at Holyoke Community College indicate that Connecticut's exports abroad increased by 12.6 percent in September from one year ago for the same month.

That increase falls in line with a similar report from the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston that shows Connecticut exports up 12.2 percent for the second quarter of this year.

Connecticut is the second-largest exporting state in New England, surpassed only by Massachusetts.

These latest increases in exports are part of a trend that began earlier this decade for Connecticut, which annually has posted growth in exports, chiefly to Canada, Mexico and several Western European countries including France, Germany and the United Kingdom. ...... Blah ...... Blah ..... Blah ...... Blah ....... Blah ,,,,,,,,


Firing someone has never been easy

Massive firings in the staggering business and banking fields have reached tragic proportions, and the worst part is that it probably isn't anywhere near over.

While our sympathy, naturally, is with the victims, I also think of the burden put on the bosses who have to give the employees the heart-breaking news. Only a sadist could relish that task.
I first encountered the challenge while working as deputy director of the Foreign Operations Administration's information section during the Eisenhower administration.


When an order to cut staff came out, I heard for the first time the dread acronym RIF, which stood for reduction in force. It was a word that sent cold shivers through the ranks of the old-time civil service staffers.


It came down to my office to eliminate one position. Under the rules, this would be the last entry on the staff, a gent with limited but passable qualifications. But he was a decent fellow, married with two kids. I really couldn't bring myself to swing the ax.


Finally, I consulted the civil service rep in my department and asked her what, if anything, I could do. The tough old bureaucrat, who had been quite hostile when I first joined up as a political appointee, said she would handle it if I wish. I wished.


A few days later she sauntered into my office and announced it was taken care of. Sign the separation papers, she advised. I looked perplexed. She smiled. "I got him transferred to Commerce," she said in a matter-of-fact manner.

I realized this maneuver hardly fulfilled the mandate to reduce staff, but I confess I was relieved with the rescue. I also realized it proved, which I'd always suspected, I'd never really make a good executive.

COMMENT;

It is clear that Mr. Yudoan And Mr. Pisani never really made a good executives.

That is why the Greenwich Time was such a poor preforming product over the years.

When Ex-Greenwich Time Editor Joe Pisani And A Few Of His Sidekicks Were Fired Last May The Greenwich Time's Online Traffic And Ciculation Shot Up 22%.

In Fact, "Our Greenwich" The Team Blog Staffed By Ex-Low Performing Media Types Is One Of The Poorest Perfrming Blogs In Greenwich.

There Are 13 Year Old Girls In Greenwich Who Have My Space Pages That Get More Readers And Web Traffic Than Ex-Greenwich Time Editor Joe Pisani.


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11/23/08 READER SUBMITTED COMMENTS: Web visitors


Brian - I may have to ditch that damn web counter. Sitemeter doesn't work on Wordpress despite what they say and I had to discontinue it - it was showing, (with URL addresses to prove it) an average of 550 unique visitors a day, 1400 page views. Wordpress's own stats, available to me as administrator, only counts page views but is showing the same 1500-1600 daily page views, so what gives with "global Search"? I don't know.

Anyway, this link in today's NYT won't hurt.




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11/22/08 Today's Hot Investment Tips Via Greenwich Roundup


Hot stock tip: Invest in green ink!


Here's Another Tip:


REIT Insiders Buy Shares Despite Market Turmoil


Hotels

Janet Morrissey

If actions speak louder than words, then the stock-buying activity of certain real estate investment trust executives may be sending a message that certain REITs have been oversold.....



... anytime you see insider buying, when they're not just exercising options,'' said Lou Taylor, an analyst in the Greenwich, Conn., office of Deutsche Bank Securities Inc. of New York. ``There are some incredibly cheap stocks, which have covered ...

.....Angela Thomson, a certified financial planner and principal at Coastal Financial Planning Inc. in Lincoln, R.I., is cautious about REITs despite the insider-buying activity.

``At this point, with my clients, it doesn't make a difference to me,'' she said. ``You don't know that management isn't making a mistake.''

Still, Ms. Thomson said that the insider buying at Public Storage, a self-storage REIT in Glendale, Calif., is the exception. ``People are still moving out of their houses fast and furious because of foreclosures, so I would say Public Storage would probably be a good [buying] opportunity right now,'' she said.

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11/22/08 And Now A Business Report From Greenwich Roundup's South African Office



Business Day


BY TONY LEON

Washington DC (or the northwestern section of it, at any rate) is not the place to find it. It is virtually recession-proof, given the high numbers around here who work for government or are involved in lobbying it.....


.....But Greenwich, Connecticut seemed to be a better place to take the weakening pulse of the wealth creators (and latterly destroyers) of the American and world financial markets. One of the wealthiest enclaves in the US, it headquarters the major hedge fund companies and financial service corporations, and is home to some of America’s richest people.


Last Saturday, we approached this gleaming citadel of American capitalism . A friend pointed out two imposing and shiny structures that house UBS Investment Bank’s American trading operations — which boasts the largest trading floor in the world — and the Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS).


Both stand today as monuments to the subprime crisis which has caused them to write down, and write off, tens of billions of dollars of dodgy mortgages and credit default swaps.


RBS has become a state-owned asset of Gordon Brown, and UBS’s fate is even worse: last week a US federal grand jury indicted its head of global wealth management on a slew of charges relating to tax evasion .


Our walk along the main street of Greenwich was even more instructive of what Paul Krugman, winner of this year’s Nobel Prize for Economics, recently termed “the long-feared capitulation of American consumers”.


On this crisp autumnal morning, there were hardly any shoppers around in the chic boutiques and luxury store fronts. We were the only visitors at a luggage store. The shop assistant said the dearth of customers was “soul- destroying”. Greenwich might be the high end of American retail, but the desertion of its stores is now reflected across the board.....


.....The marvel of the US economy is that 60% of its citizens own shares , from Warren Buffett to Joe Six-Pack. But it is now demonstrating the defects of this quality: like its wealth, the misery is now spread about, by no means equally.


“The sage of Nebraska”, as Buffett, America’s wealthiest man, is known, has suffered paper losses of $15,9bn due to the stock market plunge. But he’s still worth an estimated $45,8bn. For most Americans, however, the cushion is far less stuffed and their prosperity far more imperilled.


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Saturday, November 22, 2008

11/22/08 Greenwich Art Lover Cheated Out Of More Than $120,000



New York Post
By BRUCE GOLDING

A Manhattan art dealer was busted in Florida yesterday for peddling bogus paintings he claimed were the works of famed artists including Henri Matisse, Alexander Calder and Marc Chagall, authorities said.


Giuseppe Concepcion - a dealer at the Park Avenue Armory Art Show who is based in Miami - allegedly employed forgers to copy the originals and then peddled the fakes to unsuspecting customers between 2005 and 2007, according to court papers.


In one case, Concepcion, who is charged with wire fraud, allegedly pawned a rip-off of a 1969 Calder oil "Red Swirl" to a victim from Greenwich, Conn., for $120,000. That was one of 15 forged works the victim bought from Concepcion, according to the complaint.


Defense lawyer Mark Heller said the art works passed through the hands of multiple dealers, and that the feds were using his client as a "scapegoat."
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New York Daily News
BY THOMAS ZAMBITO
A New York art gallery owner was nabbed Friday for commissioning dozens of knockoffs of Matisse, Calder and others that he passed off as the real thing.

Giuseppe Concepcion was arrested in Florida on charges of trafficking in phony artwork and scheming to dupe clients, Manhattan federal prosecutors say.

Concepcion owns the Proarte galleries in New York and Miami.
The feds say Concepcion purchased authentic works of art by Henri Matisse, Alexander Calder, Tom Wesselman and then commissioned forgeries he sold to victims, complete with bogus documents verifying their authenticity.

In August 2005, Concepcion sold a 1969 oil painting by Calder to a Greenwich, Conn., man who gave Concepcion his 2004 Bentley as partial payment for the $180,000 price tag, FBI Special Agent James Wynne said in legal papers filed yesterday in Manhattan Federal Court.

Experts at the Calder Foundation determined that painting, and 14 others the Connecticut man bought, were fakes, Wynne said.

In November 2006, Concepcion sold a $125,000 knockoff Chagall watercolor titled "Fleurs Rouges Et Bleues," the feds say. The New York-based Comite Chagall determined the painting and its certificate of authenticity were fakes.
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11/22/08 READER SUBMITTED COMMENTS: No real press


OLD GREENWICH RESIDENT SAVES

FIVE BUCKS A WEEK


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Our newspapers serve very little of Greenwich, and it keeps serving less. I agree all 3 papers will combine and they will still follow the news of other towns. They are so lacking in local subject matter, it almost seems they do it on purpose.

Merideth Blake and Debra Friedman have no business covering the news in my town.... and they don't. They either cover nothing or they cover insignificant stories. Or, they get it all wrong and probably blame PMS. Gee, that's a new one ladies...

I will take my news straight up. Right here. I save about $5 a week, and I go to work INFORMED. And for me, that's pretty impressive around the water cooler...

J.A. Collins
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11/22/08 Town that wealth built starts to feel the pain



JOSEPH A. GIANNONE

GREENWICH, CONN. — As many hedge funds suffer big losses and anxious investors yank out their money, the town synonymous with the riches of their recent glory is now hurting.


In Greenwich, Conn., the luxury car dealers are quiet, the prices of mansions are declining and the retailers who have made a good living serving its wealthy residents are complaining about a sudden drop in business .


“Everything is down. We started to see it in the summer, but October is when the bottom caved in,” said James McArdle, whose family has run McArdle's Florist and Garden Center in Greenwich for 98 years. “Housing sales are down and so that always cuts into our market. Fewer buyers, fewer makeovers.”


.....Visit this town and it soon becomes clear that things aren't quite what they used to be. One recent weekday morning, the only creature strolling the showroom floor of Carriage House Motor Cars was a tiny mouse.


Richard Koppelman, owner of rival luxury dealership Miller Motorcars, did not want to discuss his sales. “We're in a cyclical business. It's obviously down right now. We'll hopefully see things get better soon,” he said.


For now, there are fewer people able to splurge on cars like the 2009 Bentley Continental GTC, which Miller's website lists at more then $212,000 or a “base” 2008 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti coupe for just $263,500 and change....


....“I think everybody is cautious. There's a high level of uncertainty,” said Peter Tesei, the town's first selectman, an elected post akin to mayor.


For years, Greenwich benefited from hosting these funds, he said, but now these benefactors have less to spend. One tree service firm suffered a 30-per-cent decline, Mr. Tesei said, while local charities and cultural centres expect donations to fall.


The town's top-notch Bruce Museum, which is operated by a private non-profit organization, recently postponed a $16-million expansion in light of the market downturn, Mr. Tesei said.....


“There are fewer people buying $10-million, $20-million homes. We're seeing an adjustment, a correction taking place,” said Roxana Bowgen, an estate agent at Engel & Volker, an international broker of high-end properties. “These things have to happen. After a while, things need to be cleaned up.”


Ms. Bowgen, a former commodities trader at Phibro, stressed that houses are still being sold, but the pace has slowed. Banks demand two appraisals rather than the one or even none asked for in the past, she said. Mortgages are harder to get.


“People are in a wait-and-see mode. Buyers are not ready to jump in without asking a lot of questions. They're taking their time – there's a lot more inventory,” Ms. Bowgen said.


Realtor David Ogilvy of Ogilvy & Associates noted that many managers he knows have weathered the financial storm, some by holding big piles of cash or correctly betting markets would fall, but they are being discreet about buying big homes.


Still, “We're definitely slower than we were,” Mr. Ogilvy said. “Some people who have taken it on the chin, they were heavily leveraged. We don't know who they are yet.”......


.....Terry Betteridge, whose family has run Betteridge Jewelers on the Avenue since the 1940s, said the fall of Lehman has hurt a business where customers spend $10,000 to $50,000 at a time.


“Business was phenomenal in the first quarter. When Bear Stearns fell apart, things began to get a little wonky but were still up. But when Lehman went under, there was a precipitous fall in business,” Mr. Betteridge said.


Another sign of the times is that a third of Greenwich High School's 2,700 students – most raised in affluence – are seeking jobs through a school-sponsored placement service and the number of new students registering for the service jumped to 230 in September from 170 Last Year......


......“My clients are being a little more cautious. They're not doing everything at once. They're being more thoughtful,” said Cindy Rinfret, who owns an interior design and decoration business that carries her name. “Before, it was ‘How quickly can you get it done?'”


Ms. Rinfret, who wrote a book on style featuring Greenwich's colonial, Tudor and English country style houses, said her business has held up well. Some clients who cannot sell their houses are spending to improve their surroundings, she said........


.....“Given everything going on, things are good. But I won't lie to you: Are we feeling it? Of course,” said Scott Mitchell, a co-owner of Mitchell's. The family-owned department store sells high-end jewellery and clothing from brands such as Brunello Cucinelli and Hermes, and even Ralph Lauren sweaters costing $1,000.


Business has remained strong, though the store is adapting to the environment, he said.


“We are keeping our inventory in balance. That's our biggest expense. We're cutting expenses that don't touch the customer. We are trying to reach out to our customers, one-on-one, and thank them for their business,” Mr. Mitchell said......


.....“You're talking about a town that historically has housed some of the greatest wealth in the world,” said Ron Cavalier, who sells artwork at Cavalier Galleries. “My guess is that, of all the towns, Greenwich is going to be affected the least.”


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11/22/08 READER SUBMITTED COMMENTS: An apology


To the Editor:

Please post this apology to Mrs. Sullivan regarding my recent post.

I obviously missed (or didn't realize) she was writing as a person with first hand knowlege of the term "handicapped".


I have no excuse for criticizing her informative and sincere letter.

This issue in Greenwich is so unnecessary and so beyond what should be going on in 2008....I cannot help but wonder why people with so much, just can't be thankful for what they have. But they are not thankful. They are either indifferent to others, or blatently mean, ALL TO PROVE A USELESS POINT.

I know this discriminatory behavior from another view. I can't get into it, but I understand the hurt involved.

I guess I can't read comprehensively, though. And I reacted too quickly. So, again, I'm sorry I didn't understand Ms. Sullivan's letter.

ME
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11/22/08 READER SUBMITTED LYRICS:: Oh Brian- here is a better ymca song for you


Greenwich Roundup:

OK, Does anyone else think this GREENWICH VILLAGE PEOPLE editor has a little too much time on his hands?

Ok, round up on this VILLAGE PEEPS-



Bad Boys


Bad Y
Bad Y
What ya gonna do?
What ya gonna do?
whatchya gonna do when the judge rules against you?


Donors wont give you no money
Cause your acting so loony


Bad Y
Bad Y
What ya gonna do?
What ya gonna do?
whatchya gonna do when the judge rules against you?

Bad Y
Bad Y
Reporter Merideth Blake playin sides,
Gonna keep the Handicaped off da streets,
yo the Greenwich Time always lies.

Bad Y
Bad Y
What ya gonna do?
What ya gonna do?
whatchya gonna do when the judge rules against you?.

Bad Y
Bad Y
wanna take a swim?
wanna take a swim or
play some hoop in the Gym.

Yo- we have some serious discrimination against the handicaped in this affluent town of Greenwich.

Merideth Blake, are you a reporter or do you just like to DENY EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES to the handicapped, and everyone else....


......what is wrong wth you?


Do you have a problem with wheelchairs? Are you for real, girl????

Oh my GGGGOOOOSSSSHHHHH.....this aint no disco, this aint no party this aint no foolin around....this is (sadly) Greenwich newspapers in 2008!!!!!!


Ms. Blake should try to go from her office in Riverside in a wheel chair to interview the new director of the YMCA. Let her wait for a bus with a lift to take her to the YMCA. Then she can wait outside on the street in the cold for the interview.

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For What Its Worth

Look: if there are no good reasons not to build a temporary ramp, then the Y should say so and go ahead and do the right thing......If there are, then the Y should point them out. It’s already angered half of its (now former) members and jeopardized its financial support in town by a series of blunders
P&Z to review YMCA proposal

Commission Chairman Donald Heller said he expects the body to approve the extension, based on the five-year deadline.

"Tomorrow night looks like a relatively simple evening," he said Wednesday.......
YMCA committed to finishing project

...The YMCA has also had to contend with members and the public who have expressed frustration that the facility was not made wheelchair accessible during the first phase of the project, Fretty said.

"Am I horrified and sad that it is not accessible?.....

.....The Greenwich family of Luis Gonzalez-Bunster, who is in a wheelchair, has requested the facility build a temporary ramp until the rest of the facility is complete.....
Greenwich YMCA requests more time.
.....ADA requirements have come into sharper focus recently as the family of a man who uses a wheelchair has fought to get a temporary ramp installed while renovations are carried out. On Monday, YMCA officials announced that the facility will not be handicap accessible until renovations are complete.

The YMCA has completed some of its renovations, such as the new Olympic aquatics center, which opened in November 2007.
A new basketball court also opened Monday. YMCA officials also expect a warm-water therapy pool, new spin and aerobics studios, a teen fitness center and childcare classrooms completed by June 2009, according to an e-mail sent Wednesday by Ashleigh Rowe, communications director for the YMCA.....

.....Calls were not returned from Greenwich Family YMCA officials or their attorneys Wednesday.

Rebecca Fretty Is Making Sure ThatThere Will Be No Wheelchair Basketball Games At The Greenwich YMCA

To Rebecca Fretty,apparently "headless and brain dead"Head of theGreenwich YMCAs Fretty:

Obviously you don't belong running any town facility if you ignore the LAWS REGARDING HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBILITY. Not only are you violating a mandated code, you can/will be sued....

Family pushes YMCA for wheelchair ramp

The family of the town man who could not access the Greenwich Family YMCA because the building is not wheelchair accessible, is now pressuring the nonprofit organization to install a temporary ramp or face the possibility of being shut down.

Luis Gonzalez-Bunster's family contacted Greenwich attorney Frank Peluso, who said the facility is in violation of town, state and federal laws for not providing access to people with disabilities, according to the Americans with Disabilities Act and the Town of Greenwich building code.

YMCA wrong to deny access
To the editor:
Once again, we can see the discrimination that continues in town against people with disabilities ( "Man fighting for YMCA access, Greenwich Time, Oct. 20). We have been the silent minority, but things are about to change.

We recently formed the First Selectman's Advisory Committee for People With Disabilities. The mission is to advise town officials on matters pertaining to the rights and needs of citizens with disabilities. We will also advocate for improvements to make the town more accessible for people with disabilities.

The YMCA building expansion should never have been given a temporary certificate of occupancy. Why should some people be allowed to use this facility when others are turned away?.....I hope that the YMCA will find some way to make this area accessible immediately, and that the town will consider whether its temporary certificate of occupancy should be withdrawn.

Carol Kana
Riverside

The writer is a member of First Selectman's
Advisory Committee for People With Disabilities.
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TO THE GREENWICH TIME EDITOR:

Or Read What Greenwich Residents Are Saying
On The Internet Message Boards.....

"I would think a temporary ramp (however inconvenient) has to be cheaper than a lawsuit. I don't get their thinking at all. "

"That is pathetic - how hard would it be to put in a temporary ramp. Sounds like the YMCA is just too damn lazy. "

"How is it that the Greenwich YMCA gets to take its own time to obey what is LAW? I'm thinking of how society would be in general if every institution said "I"m working on it" when told to obey the law. A prisoner is declared guilty--or not guilty--and the judge says we'll put you in prison, or let you go, just as soon as we get a good bid on fixing the computer that does the proper paperwork. Doing the right thing should not HAVE to be a legal mandate, especially for a "Christinan" organization, but unfortunately, it has to for the YMCA, who isn't even obeying the legal mandate. As I said on another post, a bumper sticker I saw read, "I'll trade your legs for my parking space any day"' A person who does not have the legs most of us take for granted--and who would not give up our legs for the "reward" of filing a lawsuit, as this family has been forced to do--should not HAVE to go through all this just to gain lawful access to a public institution. "Get over it"?????? Most of us can walk "over" a sidewalk step, but we should make sure those who cannot walk can get "over" these steps also. "

"Every member of the Y should be at the door of the Director and every Board Member demanding minimal compliance with the law. The Y is not exempt, and "later" is inadequate.

In fact, if damages are ordered by a Court,(I hope this never gets that far,) the Board members and staff that charted and supported this ill-advised stand-off should be held personally responsible by the membership at large. This could not be covered by any "errors and omissions" policy, that's for sure. "

"Wow! That really tells us what a great bunch of guys you are! Shame on all of you. "

"The American's with Disabilities Act was supposed to address situations like this. It is illegal not to have handicapped access, not just morally wrong. How difficult could it be to put in a temporary access? "

"Isn't it amazing that there are still people in this country who look down on the disabled. Well we now have a black president. We had a disabled President about 50 years ago, but we are still being discriminated against. The Y is now asking for a 5 year extension. Are we supposed to wait another 5 years. Not if I can help it. "

"Doesn't YMCA stand for Young Men's Christian Association? There's nothing "Christian" about denying people with disabilites the same access that non-disabled people enjoy every day."

" Are the Planning And Zoning Board Members mentally disiabled. It sounds as if the members are "handicapped": by stupidity and ignorance."

"The timbre of the Y in this matter has been abominable. It has come across as loutish. "




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